Sunshine:
I get them from this site: http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/
Just copy and paste till golden brown.
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somebody and nobody decided to go with somewhere to elsewhere's.. sorry... all the names suddenly struck me as funny.
Sunshine:
I get them from this site: http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/
Just copy and paste till golden brown.
everyone here seems to know a lot about jw history, but when i ask my friend (who was a convert) they don't seem to know too much.
do they teach a church history class on sundays or during the week?
(just curious...seems funny that my friend would convert from catholicism without knowing too much of the history)
It's a bit like trying to read Pravda to find out about the origins of Bolshevism. The history changes depending on who's in power and who is in good favour. There was a book about the history of the JW printed back in 1973 or 1974 that is rarely ever discussed now. I think the current "historical" book is called "Jehovah's Witnesses - Proclaimers of God's Kingdom" and it was printed in 1993. It is a careful retelling of history that ignores huge chunks of what really happened, some crazy schemes and prophecies by Russell and Rutherford and generally gives a Disneyesque version of Jehovah's Witnesses. It looks and sounds nice, but it's all really just a whitewashed grave.
could someone please help me with some suggestions!!
my family has been out for about 4 1/2 months now.
we have been inactive for a few years off and on.
I can only speak for myself, but when I was in the organisation I became severely depressed and very nearly committed suicide. Meetings became so difficult that I would have to go to the bathroom to become sick. When I stopped going, I felt better. The depression gradually went away (seeing a psychologist helped). I no longer felt tremendous guilt or physically ill.
I believe in God and I believe he created all things. I also believe he created the human body with a sense of what is good for it and what will harm it and I think we all know what harms us on some level. I say listen to your gut, that inner sense of right and wrong and it will never let you down. Letting others (ignorant elders and busybody blue-haired Witnesses) plot and plan your life will certainly lead to disaster and pain.
Edited by - Big Tex on 13 September 2002 20:55:15
for those who have left the organization, have any of you gone to another church?
or did being a jw simply turn you off religion altogether.
i feel i would like to still belong to a religious group (that's just in my personality) but of course, i would feel really guilty at first going in to "babylon the great".
ok everyone....i have noticed that there are a few other religions out there similar to the jw's.....for example...i have a friend who has a sister that who belongs to a non-denominational christian church.....she feels that her church is the "only way" to god...and also too it seems as though she looks down on anyone who does not go to her church....they have weekly bible studies on monday or tuesday nights...they even have a "field service" in which they go out to neighbors trying to get them to come to that particular church....does anyone else out there know about the other ones similar to the jw?
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there has been something that has been bothering the "engineer" part of me for a lonnnng while.
we have heard it from the platform time and time again about what we should be doing as "servants of god".
so, today i finally sat down and calculated if it is even possible to do all of the study, meetings, field service, secular work, school, etc, etc.
the 'awake' magazine never misses an opportunity to project the thought that.
the world is frightening - and hopeless.
the latest (oct.22,2002) is no excception.. on the final page inside, it quotes from a review of a book called "inviting disater -.
For years I believed almost everything that was printed in the Watchtower and Awake. Now that I'm out of that situation, I look back on that with amazement and embarrassment. How did I ever believe this stuff? How did I close my mind to so many obvious flaws? I read quotes like this now and I realise how asinine it truly is. Just amazing.
last monday 4:45 pm(westcoast time), i'm at the gas station getting gas, and drinking some good cream soda., *seems like a normal day* anybody who lives near the burbank area, already knows it's alot of them jw's walking around... anyway, 2 women come up to me and hand me some wt books(hell fire or something like that), etc, we talking, blah, blah... <i>so then i told them, i have'nt been to a church or kingdom hall since i was 7(now i'm 20/13 years), and i told them that, i gain bible knowledge from god the father and the messiah christ jesus, i study at home, cause i'm wise, plus i'm righteous, and i'm legendary, so i dont need to gather around people who aint teaching right, and besides i feel alot better by myself anyway, cause god clearly said's he will teach the wise what they need to know</i>
i'm so excited!
my memoir, father's touch is finally here!
donald.
I think I had wanted to write it without actually going there, if you know what I mean.
Yeah I do. It seems to me that you do have to get down and dirty if you're going to put the experiences down on paper. Did it feel as if you re-lived it, on an emotional level, while you were writing? I would like to read your book as it sounds like it is saying something important. I appreciate the reviewer you quoted as saying your book did not come across as another 'whiny survivor' or the 'overcame it all' syndrome. I've tried to be that way myself and you do not appear that way to me, even though I've only been on this board for a few months. By the way, thanks for responding. I've never had the chance to ask anyone these sorts of questions, especially a published author, and I've always been curious about the mechanics of writing. It does seem to me to be a difficult thing to do. But I would imagine now that it's published, you must be thrilled! Congratulations and thanks again.
Chris